My only two major issues with Closers right now
#21
This is what's wrong with the game:

저출력 이퀄라이저 (Lv. 1~20) = restore the tuning limits [only work for Lv 1~20)
보급형 이퀄라이저 (Lv. 21~40) = restore the tuning limits [only work for Lv 21~40)
고출력 이퀄라이저 (Lv. 41~50) = restore the tuning limits [ [only work for Lv 41~50]

평범한 주얼 이퀄라이저 = restore the tuning limits [Only work for 1 star costume]
빛나는 주얼 이퀄라이저 = restore the tuning limits [Only work for 2 star costume]
영롱한 주얼 이퀄라이저 = restore the tuning limits [Only work for 3 star costume]

유니온 기어 윤활제 = allows to change item's grade
[최하급:Lowest grade/하급:Low grade/일반:Normal grade/상급:high grade/최상급:highest grade]

If you want to actually get attack boosts on your gear you'll either need insane luck or cash hard to restore tuning limit.
Can't be OP in Closers without cashing apparently. You can get by with random rolls but knowing you can't be more op than other people without cashing is just bad to me. I don't play mmos to be just average.
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#22
(01-10-2015, 12:57 AM)Tanos Wrote: Can't be OP in Closers without cashing apparently.

It's not as much OP as it is "be a tiny bit better for way to much of your money"

Like, even S rank tunings are generally in the range of "meh" to the point where yes, you can definitely get similar stats with random rolls.
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#23
(01-10-2015, 12:57 AM)Tanos Wrote: This is what's wrong with the game:

저출력 이퀄라이저 (Lv. 1~20) = restore the tuning limits [only work for Lv 1~20)
보급형 이퀄라이저 (Lv. 21~40) = restore the tuning limits [only work for Lv 21~40)
고출력 이퀄라이저 (Lv. 41~50) = restore the tuning limits [ [only work for Lv 41~50]

평범한 주얼 이퀄라이저 = restore the tuning limits [Only work for 1 star costume]
빛나는 주얼 이퀄라이저 = restore the tuning limits [Only work for 2 star costume]
영롱한 주얼 이퀄라이저 = restore the tuning limits [Only work for 3 star costume]

유니온 기어 윤활제 = allows to change item's grade
[최하급:Lowest grade/하급:Low grade/일반:Normal grade/상급:high grade/최상급:highest grade]

If you want to actually get attack boosts on your gear you'll either need insane luck or cash hard to restore tuning limit.
Can't be OP in Closers without cashing apparently. You can get by with random rolls but knowing you can't be more op than other people without cashing is just bad to me. I don't play mmos to be just average.

Actually you can craft the costume ones. You can't craft the armor ones though.

It's all still random. Whenever you use one of those it resets all of your stats to before you tuned. So it's just like resetting the item totally.

The quality changer isn't that big of a deal imo. It's not too difficult to find Highest on the stuff you want. Unless you're just going for all legendary things.
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#24
I'm saying if you want to get the attack % boosts you gotta be incredibly lucky with rolls, otherwise you waste all your tuning rolls and then only option is to buy the restore tuning limit cash item. Then again you gotta pray you are lucky and get the atk % rolls or you are again screwed. It's too much of a money grab. I'm level 47 and the +13 lv 39 Seulbi has double my patk and 10x my matk. Her weapon only has like 200 more attack than mine. This isn't just a "tiny bit better". There's just way too much RNG involved that also involves cash.

You can get by without cashing at all like I have but knowing I can't be better than other people stats wise bothers me since I never settle to being average in games. Only option I'd have is to buy NX with credits over and over till RNG decides to smile on me. It's just dumb.
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#25
May I ask what these "attack % boost" affixes are specifically?  If you're talking about the patk/matk +x% affixes, they can appear outside of grind level?
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#26
(01-10-2015, 07:22 PM)Tanos Wrote: I'm saying if you want to get the attack % boosts you gotta be incredibly lucky with rolls, otherwise you waste all your tuning rolls and then only option is to buy the restore tuning limit cash item. Then again you gotta pray you are lucky and get the atk % rolls or you are again screwed. It's too much of a money grab. I'm level 47 and the +13 lv 39 Seulbi has double my patk and 10x my matk. Her weapon only has like 200 more attack than mine. This isn't just a "tiny bit better". There's just way too much RNG involved that also involves cash.

You can get by without cashing at all like I have but knowing I can't be better than other people stats wise bothers me since I never settle to being average in games. Only option I'd have is to buy NX with credits over and over till RNG decides to smile on me. It's just dumb.

It bothers you that you can't be better than people who cash in a Korean F2P MMO?

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#27
And to add to that, the cash shop advantages are PVE only at this point. You're not competing with the people who cash, you're working together with them.

If you party with them, you get faster runs at the cost of a lower Technic score. What's the problem?

Let's save the pay2win complaints for when they add traditional PVP modes where you get to bring your +13 gear and they fail to normalize gear properly, or when the community goes Vindictus/Mabinogi Heroes on us and people refuse to party with those with lower than 18k Attack.
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#28
Account stamina is the problem... Agreed by almost anyone :3
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