Outrageous update on Yuri's item
#11
(02-06-2015, 07:07 PM)Kaideh Wrote: [Image: W14tvQX.jpg]

Looks like the players are talking about it right now... Well, for me, it's makes a LOT of sense to have a 7.5/7.5. Otherwise she would be broken.

Well.. I have explained in details. I'm not going to say
"I am right and you are wrong"

If people say 'Yuri is not weak', that I understand.

Because I too,  have no problems with clearing dungeon.

But if  people say Yuri is stronger than other character,

nope, that ain't right. Because of facts above.

(02-06-2015, 07:18 PM)Person Wrote: That and,you forgot that some of seha/seulbi's skills are hybrid damage,and mostly finisher moves.

Can't argue that atm. I will need to look back at post why yuri lacks DPS than other characters even though she has wide and fast range attacks. I am out at the moment, will be back in couple of hrs with detail.

And.. most important thing you have forgotten is that

I am talking about new item for Yuri. Which is quiet unfair compare to other characters. Not talking about skills.
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#12
(02-06-2015, 07:18 PM)Person Wrote: That and,you forgot that some of seha/seulbi's skills are hybrid damage,and mostly finisher moves.
Pretty sure they took out the physical parts of her skills that had them for her OA update. (I don't use those skills.) Even her Z attacks were converted to magic damage. I don't think she has any real physical damage left.

Seha and J have some pure magic skills, but those are mostly for utility and do not warrant even getting magic modules for the two.

And even with Yuri, she has some pure physical skills but no pure magic skills. It's more worthwhile to just stack physical attack with her.

Yes, Naddic WANTS her to be hybrid, but the way the game is designed, it's not worth actually going down that route with her.
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#13
(02-06-2015, 09:14 PM)Endgame Wrote:
(02-06-2015, 07:18 PM)Person Wrote: That and,you forgot that some of seha/seulbi's skills are hybrid damage,and mostly finisher moves.
Pretty sure they took out the physical parts of her skills that had them for her OA update. (I don't use those skills.) Even her Z attacks were converted to magic damage. I don't think she has any real physical damage left.

Seha and J have some pure magic skills, but those are mostly for utility and do not warrant even getting magic modules for the two.

And even with Yuri, she has some pure physical skills but no pure magic skills. It's more worthwhile to just stack physical attack with her.

Yes, Naddic WANTS her to be hybrid, but the way the game is designed, it's not worth actually going down that route with her.
About seha&J,wouldn't it be worth trying a pure magical build?cuz i guess some skills have a high magical dmg %,for exemple the gunshot & OA Area DPS skill (finisher&the skill that act smiliar)
Same for J,his 2nd ultimate is purely magical and you can just spam multi hit attacks to trigger it as much as possible (talking about the multi punch)
I know it might not be better than pure physical,but would it be decent?
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#14
No. Not only do they only have 2-3 magic skills, but MP/HP recovery from Z attacks is dependant on the damage they deal. So more Physical Attack = more recovery = more skills can be used. (I only ever use MP potions on my Seulbi when I get hit by Astaroth's MP burn DoT. And she's the skill spammer of the group.)

This is especially important for J because his HP recovery from Z attacks is what allows him to tank hits.
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#15
O i see ouo
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#16
People are so upset over this bonus that they've taken it to the website's fanart section:

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#17
WHY. Poor Yurie is weak. ;;
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#18
In raw damage, no. Yuri can really bring the pain against any opponent that leaves its self open long enough.

In terms of AoE damage outside of ultimates and party utility however..... yes, she is lacking.

This becomes more clear in the cube and against Area 5's shadow clones. Seulbi is the master of stunlocking the clones. J will be good at disrupting and catching them when he's allowed in just as the J clones are good at disrupting us. Seha's got a great kit and can pretty much do anything in addition to dealing much more damage than anyone else. Yuri..... lacks the means to herd the clones together or stunlock them as long as the others since even her slowest skills are executed quickly.
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(02-10-2015, 04:26 PM)Endgame Wrote: In raw damage, no. Yuri can really bring the pain against any opponent that leaves its self open long enough.

In terms of AoE damage outside of ultimates and party utility however..... yes, she is lacking.

This becomes more clear in the cube and against Area 5's shadow clones. Seulbi is the master of stunlocking the clones. J will be good at disrupting and catching them when he's allowed in just as the J clones are good at disrupting us. Seha's got a great kit and can pretty much do anything in addition to dealing much more damage than anyone else. Yuri..... lacks the means to herd the clones together or stunlock them as long as the others since even her slowest skills are executed quickly.

Yea, she's got huge aerial time combos and range instead. And Gun and Sword gives her AoE coverage. Does a ranger need more AoE?
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(02-10-2015, 07:09 PM)Emulate Wrote:
(02-10-2015, 04:26 PM)Endgame Wrote: In raw damage, no. Yuri can really bring the pain against any opponent that leaves its self open long enough.

In terms of AoE damage outside of ultimates and party utility however..... yes, she is lacking.

This becomes more clear in the cube and against Area 5's shadow clones. Seulbi is the master of stunlocking the clones. J will be good at disrupting and catching them when he's allowed in just as the J clones are good at disrupting us. Seha's got a great kit and can pretty much do anything in addition to dealing much more damage than anyone else. Yuri..... lacks the means to herd the clones together or stunlock them as long as the others since even her slowest skills are executed quickly.

Yea, she's got huge aerial time combos and range instead. And Gun and Sword gives her AoE coverage. Does a ranger need more AoE?
Gun and Sword surrounds herself with enemies. She'd be leaving herself defenseless as soon as any mob counters.
Seha can do aerials better than Yuri.
Seulbi has more range than Yuri.
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