Yuri buff and animation changes
#11
is it me or they revamped 2skills and called it "full revamp of yuri"?
correct me if i'm wrong.
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#12
Bleh. I hate these new numbers. They make it a lot harder to tell how much damage your non-crits are doing.
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#13
(04-23-2015, 12:05 PM)Person Wrote: is it me or they revamped 2skills and called it "full revamp of yuri"?
correct me if i'm wrong.

Combo changes, 3 skills, magic/physical skill multiplier ratio change, mana tube to mag+phy dmg tube(?)
Probably that's why they call it "full".
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#14
(04-23-2015, 02:03 PM)InfiniteSummer Wrote:
(04-23-2015, 12:05 PM)Person Wrote: is it me or they revamped 2skills and called it "full revamp of yuri"?
correct me if i'm wrong.

Combo changes, 3 skills, magic/physical skill multiplier ratio change, mana tube to mag+phy dmg tube(?)
Probably that's why they call it "full".

Well,hopefully she can cancel like the rest of the gang for >ZZZ
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(04-23-2015, 03:15 PM)Person Wrote:
(04-23-2015, 02:03 PM)InfiniteSummer Wrote:
(04-23-2015, 12:05 PM)Person Wrote: is it me or they revamped 2skills and called it "full revamp of yuri"?
correct me if i'm wrong.

Combo changes, 3 skills, magic/physical skill multiplier ratio change, mana tube to mag+phy dmg tube(?)
Probably that's why they call it "full".

Well,hopefully she can cancel like the rest of the gang for >ZZZ<Z.

She can. It feels so much easier and the kick at the end moves forward a good range so it connects well after the gunshots. Even then, you can just loop the gunshots if you want, as they seem to pretty easily reach the edge of the screen and still hit.

Also, the change to Yuri Sprial (originally Attention) made it more a grab move like J's where it'll have a different effect on larger enemies and won't work if it misses, so you have to be a tad more careful about using it.
The change to Expert Yuri Special is great on groups too.

Also, on the note of the empty slashes for Expert Yuri Special, it seems those were actually supposed to be shockwaves too, but didn't come out for some reason in the recording. They work ingame though.
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#16
(04-23-2015, 12:05 PM)Person Wrote: is it me or they revamped 2skills and called it "full revamp of yuri"?
correct me if i'm wrong.

According to this, they changed way more than 2:
http://closers.nexon.com/news/events/Vie...icleSN=102

The video itself had 3 skills, where'd you pull the number 2 from? :v

(04-23-2015, 04:21 AM)InfiniteSummer Wrote: Thank God one of my favourite char is saved. (non-seulbi/tein mainer here)

Well I haven't played her yet, but from what I've been hearing, Yuri got worse. (Solely based on basic combo fluency. It's pretty important for a character who requires so much mana to have a high ratio of recovery)
So I don't know if it'd be considered 'saved'.

Hopefully they bumped her damage up, I still haven't been able to pass wave 40 Astaroth with her. >:v

Edit: I can see damage has been buffed considerably, but I definitely don't like the new Yuri.
  • Generally, new Yuri feels EXTREMELY STALE.
  • New combo makes me want to spam >>ZZ rather than ZZZZ, it's SO STALE AND SOMETIMES DOESN'T EVEN HIT
  • Full Magazine seems to have higher delay when you try going to advanced...
  • You have to use Advanced/Master version of Rolling Vulcan or your rolling won't go as far, reducing Rolling Vulcan's evasive ability
    • And the Adv/Master part takes f**king forever to do
    • WHICH IS REALLY F**KING ANNOYING
    • I would be fine with the new Adv/Master if we COULD MOVE WHILE DOING IT.
    • Why did they make Expert/Novice's roll sh*t?
  • New ground Yuri Special time was reduced, making the 80% reduction f**king useless.
    • Because it was shortened, it can't push anymore...
  • Yuri Spiral. Just...why ._.
  • YURI TAKES F**KING FOREVER TO F**KING RETURN TO THE GROUND NOW

The only two things I liked about this change was that general Yuri damage was increased, and new Expert Yuri Special finally had Aerial damage.

Otherwise, blech...
I'm very angry about Rolling Vulcan and Ground Yuri Special changes, tbh ._.
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(04-23-2015, 06:08 PM)Khleys Wrote: According to this, they changed way more than 2:
http://closers.nexon.com/news/events/Vie...icleSN=102

The video itself had 3 skills, where'd you pull the number 2 from? :v

i didn't bother checking it again, :C
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(04-23-2015, 06:08 PM)Khleys Wrote:  Well I haven't played her yet, but from what I've been hearing, Yuri got worse. (Solely based on basic combo fluency. It's pretty important for a character who requires so much mana to have a high ratio of recovery) So I don't know if it'd be considered 'saved'. Hopefully they bumped her damage up, I still haven't been able to pass wave 40 Astaroth with her. >:v Edit: I can see damage has been buffed considerably, but I definitely don't like the new Yuri.
  • Generally, new Yuri feels EXTREMELY STALE.
  • New combo makes me want to spam >>ZZ rather than ZZZZ, it's SO STALE AND SOMETIMES DOESN'T EVEN HIT
  • Full Magazine seems to have higher delay when you try going to advanced...
  • You have to use Advanced/Master version of Rolling Vulcan or you can't do the roll, reducing Rolling Vulcan's evasive ability
    • Because the Adv/Master part takes forever to do
    • WHICH IS REALLY F**KING ANNOYING
    • Expert/Novice's roll is pretty sh*tty too
  • New ground Yuri Special time was reduced, making the 80% reduction f**king useless.
    • Because it was shortened, it can't push anymore...
  • Yuri Spiral. Just...why ._.
  • YURI TAKES F**KING FOREVER TO F**KING RETURN TO THE GROUND NOW
The only two things I liked about this change was that general Yuri damage was increased, and new Expert Yuri Special finally had Aerial damage. Otherwise, blech... I'm very angry about Rolling Vulcan changes, tbh ._.

Rolling Vulcan hasn't changed. It's still the exact same skill besides the stomp being replaced with more shots (the -only- negative thing I can see here is being unable to move during the additional shots, and that's it.)
Full Magazine Launch is the exact same skill as before. Just some damage changes that's all.
Yuri Spiral is a large improvement over Attention, period. It still gets enemies back up from KD and lets you properly combo after it much better than Attention, due to functioning like a grab.

As for other people here, this is genuinly a full revamp.
Every single skill was changed in some way or form.
Yuri Special is mixed instead of pure physical, Automatic Fire is fully magic instead of mixed, Sonic Slash is fully physical instead of half-half, and so on.

Her damage was CONSIDERABLY buffed as well. Like holy crap, some of the new percentages...
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#19
(04-23-2015, 07:51 PM)EternalDream Wrote: Rolling Vulcan hasn't changed. It's still the exact same skill besides the stomp being replaced with more shots (the -only- negative thing I can see here is being unable to move during the additional shots, and that's it.)
Full Magazine Launch is the exact same skill as before. Just some damage changes that's all.
Yuri Spiral is a large improvement over Attention, period. It still gets enemies back up from KD and lets you properly combo after it much better than Attention, due to functioning like a grab.

No, Rolling Vulcan definitely changed. I would know, I used it often...the rebound on Novice/Expert right before you roll downwards is reduced GREATLY (you're kinda just stuck in one area once you finish shooting...).

It's irritating because that's the move I usually use to quickly evade things.

If you want proof, look at the old video:




Compare to new one:
[Image: e38aec64ce8d8cc9e0dd223a708eb0c1.gif]

Do you notice how you rebound less distance with the new one?
IT PISSES ME OFF.

Also, devs made mistake and kept old Novice action in skill preview, though the rebound is also reduced in Novice. ;_;

As for Yuri Spiral it's personal preference and because it doesn't function anything like Attention!.

What does Attention! do? Picks up irregardless.
What does Yuri Spiral do? Crashes Lv. 1 SA.

Why does this difference matter? Simple...you can't pick up the first epilogue boss. :/
Pretty annoying when you're a person who uses >>XZZ followed by Attention! all the time

Yuri Spiral also takes forever to preform, you don't want that on a character designed to be speedy ~_~...
I could say the same for Rolling Vulcan, why reduce the movement on a speedy character?

As for Full Magazine, I'm not 100% sure if the speed from Novice/Expert to Advanced/Master (though mostly Expert -> Master) was reduced or not, but it DEFINITELY feels like it.
It might just be my imagination though.

Also, I just found out you can move up/down with Rolling Vulcan now Big Grin
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#20
Yuri Spiral is pretty fast, the Expert version especially. Also, it'll still pick up knocked down mobs, only the launching kick and the following damage steps function as a SAC 1 Grab. It still picks up bosses for me :/

Rolling Vulcan is something you'll have to live with I guess. I have absolutely no problems with it (I've already figured out new combos I can do with all the new stuff, and none of em look out of place on a speedy character one bit)

I tend to do FML>>XZZ-Cross Slash-Rolling Vulcan+Yuri Spiral>>XZZ-Auto Fire when I have MP for the full combo. (though with my ulti spamming habits....)
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